How Often Should I Clean My Cva Optima

• #i

Hi, new to the site and nonetheless pretty new to muzzle loaders. I have a optima v2 I bought final year and it seems to get alot of blow back, primers come out blackness and the activeness in covered.

And then two questions, how is blowback problems solved? Im using 777 powder and Winchester 77 primers (although I just bought blackhorn 209 and cci 209m to endeavour).

Too how do I tear this down to clean? Cant seem to find much online. Ill clean it every bit best as I can then later a few days its corroded and sick clean information technology once more.

whatever help will be great, thanks

• #3

SO you lot simply put that in the hole earlier y'all load the primer in? Worth a shot, thanks

• #4

sawtoothscream said:

How-do-you-do, new to the site and still pretty new to cage loaders. I have a optima v2 I bought last yr and it seems to get alot of blow back, primers come out black and the action in covered.

So ii questions, how is blowback bug solved? Im using 777 pulverization and Winchester 77 primers (although I only bought blackhorn 209 and cci 209m to try).

ALso how do I tear this down to clean? Cant seem to detect much online. Ill clean it as best as I can then subsequently a few days its corroded and ill clean information technology once again.

any help will exist groovy, cheers

Did you swab between shot with the T7 pulverization? If so that may have caused the blowback to get into the breech surface area, that's what happened to me with the Optima pistol using T7. Since I have at present been using BH 209 powder with Win209A primers there has been piddling to no blowback in the breech area. In that location is no need to swab with BH powder and then you don't flush fouling out, only shoot till you get tired or find that accurate load. This has been my experience anyway...

As far every bit tearing down, take you reviewed the instructional video CVA has on trigger-happy down the Optima? That should be self explanatory. Yous shouldn't be getting any corrosion either after a proper cleaning and use of rust preventative spray/oil.http://www.cva.com/Blackpowder-Videos.p ... zleloading Basics&id=72#l

• #5

Aye, cleaned the butt later every shot.

Did watch the videos only they just prove the barrel cleaning and on there sight it says you shouldnt need to clean the activity at all and disassembly isnt allowed as they apply a special fixture to get together it.

Barrel is clean as can exist but cleaning out the blowback is the hard part esp since I cant remove the trigger and lever.

thanks

• #half-dozen

I bet that's why you are having blow back into the breech area due to swabbing T7. I did the same matter that's why I decided to go with BH209, no swabbing necessary. I don't know that CVA would recommend removing the trigger or hammer assembly. I simply accept off the barrel and clean out the breech area all-time you tin with a rag an Q-tips. Use a quality spray bore/protectant. I practice take out the firing pin/jump and make clean that as well with Q-tips, but that'south equally far every bit I'one thousand going.
Give BH209 powder a try, you lot will need the QRBP made for BH209 and Winchester 209A primers or hotter to ignite it, but it does brand a difference. I don't like to swab, its OK on the range just non likely in a hunting state of affairs in example you get a second shot. I also like the Harvester crushrib sabots, makes loading very piece of cake without the need for a short starter. Good Luck!!

• #8

thanks guys, already take the blackhorn 209 here and primers. Going to order the breech plug this week and get some fourth dimension backside it. I like the audio of getting several shots before needing to clean. Took to dang long to work up loads have to clean the barrel every shot.

Thing I hate is I have to drive almost 2hrs to buy the stuff since no one sells it around here and it cant be shipped to the business firm.

What cleaner would you recommend for the action?

• #nine

sawtoothscream said:

What cleaner would yous recommend for the action?

I'm using ProTec Premium pump spray right now, its a borecleaner for blackpowder, but works good for wiping the breech. (got it when NAHC had their field test plan). I will probably put some Hoppes #9 in that sprayer when its gone as its easier to spray than putting on a rag. There are lots of good borecleaners out there every bit well. I would look for 1 similar Hoppes or similar for cleaning BH or CF powders.

• #10

There's two ways to cure blowback. The o-ring mentioned which I don't like, considering the primer can autumn out easier, and you need to slam the action closed with some primers.

The other way is to utilise shims backside the firing pivot housing. You need to settle on what breech plug and brand of primer you're going to use. And so you tin can use the shims to setup the headspace. The shims can be bought from Carlos, or from CVA.

There'due south a video on another forum showing how to set the headspace if you decide to go that way. I'll also give y'all Carlos'south info if you decide to go that way.

• #11

Then you shim where the fire pin is? similar the sound of that meliorate

As well do you need to cut a notch in a spiral commuter to take information technology off? my firing pin blocks a screw driver from plumbing fixtures in to remove information technology.

• #12

Some guys practise modify a screwdriver to fit. The firing pivot sticking out is spring loaded. Sometimes yous can button in the screwdriver compressing the spring to get the housing off, only a specific screwdriver is easier.

• #15

Too, there is an o-ring which sits in the receiver, under the firing pin bushing. I am bold this o-band is there to requite yous a little adjustment in the firing pin bushing when y'all tighten it, without information technology being loose. I wold say I take between 1/iii to i/2 turn to adjust the bushing before it bottoms out or is backed out till information technology comes loose. I suppose it would likewise be possible to loose this o-ring if you remove the firing pin bushing assembly for cleaning, although i take never had one autumn out on it's own and mine take always remained seated in the receiver.

• #16

thanks again, my new breech plug is on its style and a lead sled so when the flavour ends ill start messing around with the gun. Wish I joined this site when I bought the gun.

• #17

sabinajiles said:

Likewise, there is an o-band which sits in the receiver, nether the firing pin bushing. I am bold this o-ring is there to give y'all a trivial aligning in the firing pin bushing when you tighten information technology, without it being loose. I wold say I have between 1/three to one/2 turn to accommodate the bushing before it bottoms out or is backed out till it comes loose. I suppose information technology would also be possible to loose this o-band if you remove the firing pin bushing assembly for cleaning, although i have never had one autumn out on it'southward own and mine have e'er remained seated in the receiver.

That doesn't sound right. I've endemic 7 CVA inlines, and I e'er had a hard time getting that o-ring off to set the headspace. No way would it ever fall off. Too, information technology'due south very small in diameter, and easily compressed when tightened. The FP bushing should be tightened hard all the way in, and not use the o-ring for an adjustment. It almost sounds similar you take the wrong o-ring. Did you buy the gun new?

• #18

Muley Hunter said:

sabinajiles said:

Also, there is an o-ring which sits in the receiver, under the firing pin bushing. I am bold this o-ring is in that location to give yous a little adjustment in the firing pivot bushing when you tighten information technology, without it being loose. I wold say I take betwixt i/3 to 1/2 plow to suit the bushing earlier it bottoms out or is backed out till it comes loose. I suppose it would also be possible to loose this o-ring if yous remove the firing pin bushing assembly for cleaning, although i take never had one fall out on information technology'due south own and mine have e'er remained seated in the receiver.

That doesn't audio correct. I've owned 7 CVA inlines, and I always had a hard time getting that o-ring off to set up the headspace. No way would information technology e'er fall off. As well, it'southward very small in diameter, and easily compressed when tightened. The FP bushing should be tightened difficult all the way in, and not use the o-ring for an adjustment. It almost sounds like yous accept the wrong o-ring. Did y'all buy the gun new?

Yes, the gun was purchased new and it has the right o-ring. I did say that it does not fall out on it's own.

• #xix

just got dorsum from the range trying out the black horn pulverisation and cci primers. Pretty happy, group size went way down and no blowback issues. :drinkers:

still demand to attempt to become the firing pivot out and clean information technology up. what screw driver should i buy? likewise what solvent to make clean it?

hope I tin can get it out, might have screwed the pooch on this ane

• #20

You need a screw driver that fits the slot with no slop. The slot in the bushing isn't very deep and easy to bugger. If damaged to much you may accept to order a new i from CVA. I think they cost like $ten.00.

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